Continental WinterContact TS 860

Continental WinterContact TS 860
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Continental WinterContact TS 860

3PMSF The presented tyre is marked with 3PMSF symbol (Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake). It means that the tyre meets the EU requirements for winter tyres. The symbol is awarded after thorough tests of a tyre model in terms of snow grip.

Continental WinterContact TS 860 tyre tests:

2021: TCS test in size 195/65 R15; rated: recommended;
2021: ÖAMTC test in size 195/65 R15; rated: recommended;
2021: TCS test in size 225/50 R17; rated: recommended;
2021: ÖAMTC test in size 225/50 R17; rated: recommended;
2021: ADAC test in size 195/65 R15; rated: satisfactory;
2021: ADAC test in size 225/50 R17; rated: satisfactory;
2020: ÖAMTC test in size 205/55 R16; rated: recommended;
2020: GTÜ test in size 225/50 R17; rated: recommended;
2020: ADAC test in size 205/55 R16; rated: satisfactory;
2019: TCS test in size 185/65 R15; rated: recommended;
2019: ÖAMTC test in size 185/65 R15; rated: recommended;
2019: ADAC test in size 185/65 R15; rated: satisfactory;
2018: AutoExpress test in size 205/55 R16; rated: ; (1st place).
2018: ACE/ARBÖ/GTÜ test in size 185/65 R15; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2018: Auto, Motor und Sport test in size 205/55 R16; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2018: TCS test in size 205/55 R16; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2018: TCS test in size 175/65 R14; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2018: ACE/GTÜ test in size 185/65 R15; rated: recommended; (1st place).
2018: ÖAMTC test in size 205/55 R16; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2018: ÖAMTC test in size 175/65 R14; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2018: ADAC test in size 205/55 R16; rated: good; (1st place).
2018: ADAC test in size 175/65 R14; rated: good; (1st place).
2017: TCS test in size 195/65 R15; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2017: ÖAMTC test in size 195/65 R15; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).
2017: AutoExpress test in size 225/45 R17; rated: ; (1st place).
2017: Auto Zeitung test in size 195/65 R15; rated: good; (1st place).
2017: ADAC test in size 195/65 R15; rated: good; (1st place).
2016: Motor test in size 205/55 R16; rated: Winner of the test; (1st place).
2016: AutoExpress test in size 205/55 R16; rated: ; (1st place).
2016: GTÜ test in size 205/55 R16; rated: Highly recommended; (1st place).
2016: Auto Zeitung test in size 205/55 R16; rated: highly recommended; (1st place).

Continental WinterContact TS 860 is another winter tyre from the legendary line of this German firm. Tyres marked with "TS" have been recognised for last few years as one of the best on the market. The previous model (TS 850) was one of the best rated tyres in Continental history. The tyre was tested in more than 47 tests and was frequently awarded with top grades. TS 850 is also highly appreciated by customers. More than 90% of our customers recommend it. Continental declares that WinterContact TS860 is even better.


On the wet, winter roads Continental WinterContact TS 860 offers 5% shorter braking distance than its predecessor. On the ice, braking is more effective by 4%. Continental engineers have also managed to improve overall tyre performance on slippery surfaces. Rolling resistances and wear resistance are comparable to its predecessor, the TS850.


The high performance of Continental WinterContact TS 860 was achieved by the use of a modified rubber blend and modified tread pattern. The "Cool Chili" blend contains a lot of silica, which shortens the braking distance on wet surfaces. The polymer ingredients of the blend are specially selected to maximise traction on winter surfaces and at low temperatures. Continental WinterContact TS 860 offers full control of the vehicle in the most difficult conditions.


Moreover, the tyre uses an innovative water evacuation system. Driving and braking on a slippery surface creates a kind of fluid coat that increases the contact area with the road and reduces the risk of skidding. This solution greatly improves safety when driving on glazed frost.


This model has a directional tread without circumferential grooves, which is characteristic of modern winter tyres. Its characteristic feature is SnowCurve technology with 3D grooves arranged all over the tread surface. The additional groove on the walls of the tread blocks ensure better grip in the snow, which significantly improves traction and control on slippery roads.


Continental tyres are designed for a variety of road conditions: dry, wet, snowy and icy roads. Such conditions are typical from October to March in Central Europe. Therefore, Continental WinterContact TS 860 is perfect for the winter season.



Continental is a German tyre manufacturer which is well-known and appreciated all over the world. The company offers high-tech tyres. Their tyres are fitted as standard on the best car models. Continental is in a class by itself. In addition to its own brand, the group owns the majority of shares in companies like Uniroyal, Barum, Viking, Matador and Semperit.

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Reviews

Continental WinterContact TS 860

4.4 Average rating on the performance
  • 4.6/5 Dry surface
  • 4.4/5 Snow and slush
  • 4.4/5 Wet surface
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  • Results : 30 of 30 reviews

    205/45 R16

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    I've been thinking about choosing a winter car tyre for a long time. I have already traveled on various, from the cheapest budget, to premium tyres of different brands. I must admit that I had doubts about whether it is worth buying tyres at this price, but after a whole winter I can say that this choice was very good. The tyres traveled on very different roads and in different parts of the country. They worked great on the highway or express way. Good grip and reaction to steering movements. The braking distance was also not a problem. In the period when the snow fell and during the trips to the mountains undergone baptism of fire, despite fears and strange comments that fitters and friends gave, they were just sensational. In places where others had a problem with the driveway, moving away, I was moving as if there was neither snow nor ice on the road. To sum up: if you have money, take care of your safety and passengers, choose Continental. They will not let you down. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    more than 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    fast and dynamic
    Vehicle:
    Skoda Rapid Liftback I FL 1.0 TSI (81kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.9

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    10 1

    Krzysiek Cz.

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    I chose the tyres for our winter conditions (ie a lot of rain, slush, etc.). In many tyre tests (in our country and foreign) they occupy leading positions and this is confirmed. In our conditions, the winter tyre is great, it behaves well on wet, on snow and on slush. Despite 150 hp and front drive, the traction is really good. A bit worse in deep snow, but at this same time good for such a tread. It is fairly quiet. As for the abrasiveness after traveling 4-4,5 thousand miles it's hard to say, it's not excessive. But the other continental tyres I owned were very good. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    fast and dynamic
    Vehicle:
    Mitsubishi Galant 4/5 drzwi V 2.0 V6

    Overall assessment:

    4.4

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    1 1

    Tomasz

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The used tyres are the Continental WinterContact TS 860 195/65 R15 T91 with the label: C - rolling resistance, B - braking on wet, volume - 72 dB. The tyres are probably quieter than the EU label says. On a wet surface, there is a slight slip when starting faster. Rolling resistance is class C and there is actually more fuel consumption than when using class B tyres. The high profile (65) and the T speed index (120 mph) are noticeable at highway speeds and lateral winds. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    10000 - 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Peugeot 308 SW II 1.2 THP 110 (81kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.0

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 3/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    1 1

    andrzej

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Winter in 2017/18 wasn’t hard, but it was snowing few times. From the winter tyre, above all, the good snow grip is expected. Unfortunately, several times I was braking on the snow at low speed and I did not see any difference between this tyre and the others I had before - eg Fulda. I would expect more after the premium class, and as I wrotethe deference was very small if not no noticeable difference. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Fiat Bravo Hatchback II 1.4 16V (66kW)

    Overall assessment:

    3.4

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 2/5

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    0 1

    Waldek

    Over 2 years ago
  • 225/45 R17

    Verified review

    Good in the wet, good in the dry, excels in snow. Reassuring predictable tyre. Good at high speed - often one can forget they are winters. Tough too. Only 2 possible gripes - turn in one can feel the blocks moving a fraction (but these are way better than Alpin 5s for that). Also, ride a bit soft on them - but comfy++ Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    10000 - 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    fast and dynamic
    Vehicle:
    BMW 1 Series Hatchback F21 FL M 135i (240kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.4

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    3 0

    DP

    Over 2 years ago
  • 205/55 R16

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The Continental WinterContact TS 860 tyres are very quiet.The generate definitely a lower noise than my previous Fulda Kristal I dont know how are they doing on ice because I didt have an opportunity to test them in winter conditions. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    below 2000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Volvo V50 Combi I 2.0 D

    Overall assessment:

    4.2

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    1 0

    Romelu

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    I am after the first season of tyre use. The tyres performed well on snow and mud. Thanks to that I felt confident while driving in worse weather conditions. In my opinion, it's worth adding some money and buying premium brand tyres. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Audi A3 Sportback 8P 1.9 TDI (77kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.6

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    1 0

    Mateusz

    Over 2 years ago
  • 155/70 R13

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Good tyres, but rather closer to the universal type than a winter tyre in my opinion. There are no good tyres for the ice, but they also lose grip on the snow with my light car. Rather for heavier cars alike Audi. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    calm
    Vehicle:
    Ford Ka Hatchback I 1.3i

    Overall assessment:

    3.3

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 3/5

    The grip on snow and slush 3/5

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    2 0

    Monika

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    They work well both on wet and dry surfaces. As for the snow, they behave correctly. The start and braking are positive. Comparing to Fulda Nontreo 3 is much better in favor of Continental. I would recommend. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    no data was found.

    Overall assessment:

    4.1

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    0 0

    K.M

    Over 2 years ago
  • 185/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    I get in and I’m out, I'm not worried whether it's summer or winter, the fire is flying from the chimney, and the grip is still constant because it's Continental and not any baub. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    fast and dynamic
    Vehicle:
    Fiat 125p Sedan

    Overall assessment:

    4.2

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    1 0

    Rafał

    Over 2 years ago
  • 185/60 R14

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The Continental WinterContact TS 860 are great in such weather conditions as rain and snow.They provide both comfort and safety. I think it the tyres are worth their price! Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    10000 - 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Fiat Punto Cabriolet I 85 1.2 16V

    Overall assessment:

    4.3

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    3 0

    Vadis

    Over 2 years ago
  • 205/55 R16

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    I recommend these tyres, if someone cares about super tyre and safety, it is worth investing in Continetal, a tyre that is quiet and perfect for the winter. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    VW Golf Hatchback VII FL 1.0 TSI BlueMotion Technology (81kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.8

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    1 0

    Golf

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    They were, are and will be my favorite winter tyres ... until they will be changed with a fancy tread or my B5 will fall apart. I would recommend! Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    VW Passat Variant B5 1.9 TDI

    Overall assessment:

    3.0

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 3/5

    The grip on snow and slush 3/5

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    1 0

    Szymon

    Over 2 years ago
  • 205/55 R16

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Really very good winter tyres, very comfortable, as far as durability is still not enough milage traveled to evaluate them, but I recommend them. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Toyota Avensis Sedan II 2.0 D-4D

    Overall assessment:

    4.6

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    2 0

    Zbigniew

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The tyres perform very well on snow and slush. Good braking. I recommend to all buyers and those looking for winter tyres. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    VW Bora Variant I 1.9 TDI (74kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.4

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    2 0

    Joker

    Over 2 years ago
  • 225/45 R17

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The Continental WinterContact TS 860 tyres guarantee a good grip, and really nice design but could be bit more quiet. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    10000 - 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    no data was found.

    Overall assessment:

    4.1

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    3 1

    Mark

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The tyres have perfect grip on dry and wet roads. The noise level is pleasant and hardly bothers compared to Hankook. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    fast and dynamic
    Vehicle:
    Kia Cee'd Schragheck I 1.6 CRDi

    Overall assessment:

    4.6

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    1 0

    Rico B.

    Over 2 years ago
  • 185/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Very good winter tyres. Continental WinterContact TS 860 tyres are worth their price! . I do strongly recommend Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    more than 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    no data was found.

    Overall assessment:

    3.5

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    Cristiano

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Revelation. In the mountains I left the high snow, and I thought that someone would have to pull me out. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Hyundai i30 CW I 1.6 (FD)

    Overall assessment:

    4.7

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    0 0

    Jerzy

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Very good and durable tyres, in addition, the size 15” at a reasonable price as for the premium class. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    10000 - 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    calm
    Vehicle:
    Toyota Auris Hatchback I 1. 4 D-4D

    Overall assessment:

    4.3

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    0 0

    Filip

    Over 2 years ago
  • 185/60 R14

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    I have been using these tyres for many years and I recommend to others, they are great for this price. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    VW Polo Hatchback IV FL 1.4 (59kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.1

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    0 0

    Janusz

    Over 2 years ago
  • 205/55 R16

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The tyre provides very good grip. It managed without any problems on snowy mountain roads. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    calm
    Vehicle:
    Volvo V70 Kombi II 2.4 D

    Overall assessment:

    5.0

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    0 0

    Karol

    Over 2 years ago
  • 165/65 R14

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Too few miles driven to give full feedback, but for now all parameters are very good. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    below 2000 miles
    Driving style:
    calm
    Vehicle:
    Toyota Aygo Hatchback II 1.0 VVT-i (51kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.2

    The grip on dry surface 4/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 4/5

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    0 0

    Gość

    Over 2 years ago
  • 175/65 R14

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Not one set of tyres is behind me and definitely these Continetals are the best. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    more than 15000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Honda Jazz Hatchback I 1.4i

    Overall assessment:

    4.8

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    0 0

    Piotr Trzaskoma

    Over 2 years ago
  • 185/60 R15

    Verified review

    Opinion from outside the UK

    The tyres are very good, I had no problem on a slippery or snow-covered road. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    below 2000 miles
    Driving style:
    calm
    Vehicle:
    VW Polo Hatchback VI 1.0 TGI BlueMotion (66kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.8

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    0 0

    Artur

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/50 R15

    Verified review

    These tires are so good that I ended up using my MX5 as my daily all winter. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    fast and dynamic
    Vehicle:
    Mazda MX-5 Cabrio II 1.8

    Overall assessment:

    4.7

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    Steven Rose

    Over 2 years ago
  • 205/55 R16

    Verified review

    Translation

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Premium tires with the highest parameters. For now, a revelation! Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Hyundai i30 Hatchback III 1.0 T-GDI (88kW)

    Overall assessment:

    5.0

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    Tomasz K

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Translation

    Opinion from outside the UK

    tyres great in every way! Conti = Quality, and that's it! Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    5000 - 10000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Opel Corsa Hatchback D 1.3 CDTI (55kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.9

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    Piotr Lis

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Translation

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Very good quality, good grip, low combustion. Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Audi A3 Sportback 8P 2.0 TDI (100kW)

    Overall assessment:

    5.0

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 5/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    Andrzej

    Over 2 years ago
  • 195/65 R15

    Verified review

    Translation

    Opinion from outside the UK

    Very good sense of safety while driving, Read more Collapse

    Summary: I recommend this tyre

    Distance travelled:
    2000 - 5000 miles
    Driving style:
    moderate
    Vehicle:
    Audi A3 Hatchback 8L 1.9 TDI (96kW)

    Overall assessment:

    4.6

    The grip on dry surface 5/5

    The grip on wet surface 4/5

    The grip on snow and slush 5/5

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    0 0

    Marek Michałowski

    Over 2 years ago